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Mark Zuckerberg takes major dig at Apple in tell-all Joe Rogan interview

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Published 11:29 13 Jan 2025 GMT

Mark Zuckerberg takes major dig at Apple in tell-all Joe Rogan interview

No love lost between Meta and Apple

Tom Chapman

Tom Chapman

Mark Zuckerberg has appeared on Joe Rogan's podcast and he didn't mince his words when it came to talking about Apple.

The tech giants are at war once again, and it seems those at the top can't go two seconds without taking a swipe at each other. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has fired shots at Apple in a tell-all confessional with Joe Rogan.

Appearing on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast, Zuckerberg discussed everything from the Biden administration to 'masculine energy'. The big talking point of the nearly three-hour discussion was Meta's controversial promises to restore' free speech' to Facebook and Instagram, alongside Zuckerberg's thoughts on Apple.

As one of the biggest companies in the world, Apple is clearly doing something right, and with our ongoing iPhone obsession, it continues to boom.

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Mark Zuckerberg isn't a fan of Apple's dominance in the market (NurPhoto / Contributor / Getty)
Mark Zuckerberg isn't a fan of Apple's dominance in the market (NurPhoto / Contributor / Getty)

Still, it seems that Zuckerberg isn't a fan of the new Apple under the leadership of Tim Cook, firing shots at the fellow tech Goliath over its 'lack' of innovation.

When discussing all things Apple, Zuckerberg called out the company's 'random rules' and explained: "On the one hand, [the iPhone has] been great, because now pretty much everyone in the world has a phone, and that’s kind of what enables pretty amazing things.

"But on the other hand ... they have used that platform to put in place a lot of rules that I think feel arbitrary and [I] feel like they haven’t really invented anything great in a while.

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“It’s like Steve Jobs invented the iPhone, and now they’re just kind of sitting on it 20 years later."

He went on to suggest that iPhone sales might be struggling because there's not enough jump between models to encourage people to upgrade to the latest release: "So how are they making more money as a company? Well, they do it by basically, like, squeezing people, and, like you’re saying, having this 30% tax on developers by getting you to buy more peripherals and things that plug into it.

"You know, they build stuff like Air Pods, which are cool, but they’ve just thoroughly hamstrung the ability for anyone else to build something that can connect to the iPhone in the same way."

Zuckerberg says that Apple is pushing back by saying it doesn't want to violate the privacy and security of its customers, however, he thinks better encryption would solve a lot of its problems: "It’s insecure because you didn’t build any security into it. And then now you’re using that as a justification for why only your product can connect in an easy way."

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He concluded that recent releases like the Vision Pro suggest that Apple doesn't know what it's doing: "I think the Vision Pro is, I think, one of the bigger swings at doing a new thing that they tried in a while.

"And I don’t want to give them too hard of a time on it, because we do a lot of things where the first version isn’t that good, and you want to kind of judge the third version of it. But I mean, the V1, it definitely did not hit it out of the park."

Saying he heard 'it's really good for watching movies,' it doesn't sound like Zuckerberg will be stumping up for a Vision Pro anytime soon.

As a parting shot, Zuckerberg suggested that Meta's profits could double if Apple wasn't so dominant.

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